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Was Sun News' Margie Gillis hate-on a prelude for a Harper led Tea Party North?

Canadian dance icon Margie Gillis speaks out about how Sun News attacked and deceived her, calls for its demise. "I think the station should be taken off until they can prove that they represent Canadian values," she said. 

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Krista Erickson, left, interviewed Margie Gillis on Sun News Network in June

By now, almost every Canadian has weighed in on the infamous interview between Sun News Network’s Krista Erickson and Canadian dance icon Margie Gillis. During the one-sided grilling, Erickson mocked Gillis and asked her why $1.2 million in public funds was being used to support her foundation. Although Gillis tried to explain, her interviewer constantly shouted over her, at one point flapping her hands in a crude imitation of the dancer’s art. 

The notorious interview would result in CRTC receiving a record 4,300 formal complaints from viewers (the average is around 2,000 per year). People were outraged: Gillis was an internationally recognized dance icon, a recipient of the 2011 Governor General’s award for Lifetime Artistic Achievement. Erickson, meanwhile, was a little-known broadcaster who herself was paid out of taxpayer dollars for 11 years at the CBC, where she worked prior to joining the Sun News team

While the interview was treated as a joke by some media outlets, its implications were serious. The Sun "interview" revealed three major things: 1) the onset of right-wing, American-style demagoguery in Canada 2) the political undermining of the arts and culture sector and 3) an erosion of compassion for the weak and marginalized in society.

Years from now, the Gillis-Erickson interview may be remembered as a watershed moment when Canada became a less polite, less civil nation in the public discourse.

The deception

Dance icon Margie Gillis was well aware of Sun News’ reputation when she accepted the interview. “Fox News North,” people called it – Gillis, a dual U.S.-Canadian citizen, knew exactly what that meant.

Still, when her office began receiving persistent phone calls every day from Sun News, urging her to appear on their show, her administrator eventually became persuaded that their intentions were honorable.

“They said, ‘we are obviously a conservative television station, (but) we really respect her and admire her…we feel we would like to give her a chance to speak about funding and the arts,’” she recalls.

Wanting to “bridge differences”, Gillis decided to accept the invitation. She waited in a small room with a TV monitor when her interviewer appeared on the screen. Gillis said Erickson reassured her that it would be a respectful interview:

“Krista said, this is going to be a lot of fun, a couple of difficult questions, but we really respect you, this is going to be great.”

What followed was a lengthy bashing and belittling of Gillis, and by extension, the entire arts community.

“It was just an attack,” Gillis said. “She just didn't care what I was saying … I've never done an interview where they don't come back on to say thank you very much. I sat there in this little room. Nobody came in, nobody came out and I sat there for about 10 minutes just going: wow, that was an attack.”

Stunned by the hostility of her interviewer, Gillis nonetheless sensed that there was more to it than just a deeper context for this attack, and said she does not resent Erickson. She believes that the journalist was merely doing her job, following the orders of someone higher up the ladder.

“She had someone speaking in her ear the whole time, people telling her what to do and what to say,” said Gillis. “I have no animosity towards her.”

So who are the people pulling the strings in this interview? Is it simply a TV producer desperate for ratings? Or could it be someone much higher up, such as the Prime Minister?

The Sun News Network: Harper’s mouthpiece?

It’s no secret that The Sun is a right-wing news agency with deep ties to the Harper administration. Its Vice President, Kory Teneycke, is the combative former communications director for Stephen Harper. Described as the “spiritual leader” of Sun News, he pushed for a news network that would help push Conservative policies to wider public acceptance.

From the beginning, Teneycke was a lightning rod for critics due to his close ties to the Harper government as he worked on bringing Sun News to televisions across Canada. He had resigned from the network last September due to controversy that he had tampered with an online petition created by activist group Avaaz.org to stop a “Fox News North” from coming to Canada.

Yet just months later, the former Harper spokesperson quietly returned to the company fold as vice president. His network took on stories aligned with the Tory agenda, such as questioning public health care, undermining green policies, and of course, attacking funding for the arts.

"Culture-killer"

For years, Harper has shown an unusual disdain for the arts and culture sector. He slashed $45 million slashed in arts funding in 2008, causing outcry from people working in the industry. He made divisive remarks in a bid to pit average Joe Canadians against their intellectuals and artists:

"I think when ordinary working people come home, turn on the TV and see a gala of a bunch of people at a rich gala all subsidized by taxpayers … I'm not sure that's something that resonates with ordinary people," Harper said that fall in Saskatoon. The Prime Minister dubbed his opponents "elitists" and said they were preoccupied by a "niche issue."

Harper's rage against arts-inclined "elitists" was strangely reminiscent of the way in which Conservative pundits across the border such as Rush Limbaugh and Republican politicians such as George Bush spoke of the "liberal elite". Their rhetoric helped create a feeling of alienation among working-class Conservatives from their left-leaning fellows. 

Both former Liberal leader Stéphane Dion and the late NDP leader Jack Layton were alarmed by Harper's rhetoric. "We need to stop this man.  He wants to pit everyone against everyone, Canadians against their artists," warned Dion. The NDP criticized Harper's arts funding cuts, running an electronic French-language ad in Quebec that showed the "Conservateur" (Conservative) logo morphing into "Conserva-tueur de la culture," or "culture killer."

People in the arts community worried over Harper's dismissive attitude toward their jobs. One blogger wrote: 

"What I find most maddening ... is the revolutionary overturning of the term ‘elites’ to mean, not economic elites such as the Ruling Class, but Margie Gillis and others who live mostly below all poverty lines. The artist who does not serve the state becomes, in fascism, the eternal scapegoat." 

Sun News accordingly aligned itself with Harper's views on the arts. In SunTV's advertising plugs, the network calls Krista Erickson "SUNshine girl", and introduced her to the public gazing into the camera with a bold, sexualized "I love sports and country" come on. 

Both Harper and Sun News criticize artists' dependence on public funding and grants. Unfortunately, not every artist can be a self-perpetuating success like Justin Bieber: some arts programs, especially those focusing on minority groups and at-risk youth, require funding to serve the community. 

The liberal elite scapegoat

And why does Harper go after the artists? While it’s impossible to generalize, artists and cultural sector workers have traditionally been less attached to the Conservative party.

According to a June study by Samara.org, the current Conservative Party’s elected officials are almost exclusively from a business/law career, while the Liberal and NDP party are more likely to come from “liberal arts” and community work backgrounds.

Silencing and discrediting the arts sector is way to silence and discredit people who tend to vote against the Conservative agenda. Sun News anchors regularly use the term "artsy-fartsy" to describe Liberals and "soft" Conservatives, as though being somewhat left-leaning by default connects someone to the arts. 

Although Erickson attacked Margie Gillis on the grounds that she was receiving funds from the government, taxpayer dollars may not be not at the heart of the issue. 

Funding not the main issue

Gillis was put on the spot on grounds that her dance foundation received $1.2 million in public funding – over 13 years. But governments spend that amount on a regular basis, and is less than half the $2.4 million that Harper spent on buying lunch boxes last year. Considering the $5 million recently spent by the B.C. government on an unsuccessful and short-lived HST ad campaign, it's not a lot of money to be raising public anger about. As most arts organizations know well, public funding is scarce and needs to be carefully spent. “She really picked the wrong person (to target),” said Gillis. “I grew up very poor, and I'm very careful about money. If you think about $90,000 a year with three employees, that's $30,000 a year.” Gillis added that some of Erickson’s figures were inaccurate and poorly researched.

 

Government funding for the arts is in fact only a minuscule portion of its overall budget, Louis Laberge-Côté, a Toronto-based dancer and choreographer, said.  

“According to Canadian Heritage, the federal cultural funding totals “$1.51 billion for the fiscal years from 2010 to 2015, which amounts to an average of about $300 million a year,” he said. “The Canadian federal budget expenditure totaled $276 billion. Wanting to cut these amounts to help the economy is somewhat similar to wanting to cut the toenails of an obese man, just so he could lose some weight. Somewhat ridiculous, don’t you think?” 

What’s more, he argues, money invested into the arts is not simply being thrown into the void. According to Industry Canada, the economic footprint of Canada’s cultural sector was $84.6 billion in 2007, or 7.4 per cent of Canada’s GDP. The culture sector employment exceeded 1.1 million jobs that year.

And the arts are hardly the only sector to receive public funding: from professional sports to scientific research, every sector receives public funding.

“I don’t understand why artists are being publicly described as spoiled elitists when the government also supports the pharmaceutical industry, high-caliber sports or higher education,” argued Laberge-Côté.

“Everything is financed by the state. And everybody benefits from it. When an athlete competes on an international level, we’re all winners.”

Mike Ross, a writer for the Edmonton Sun, wrote that although he felt torn about the issue, he disagreed with the Conservatives' stance on the arts:

Just as there are “hidden” costs to the $1 burger at McDonald’s (obesity, the decline of family farms, etc.), there are many hidden profits from the arts aside from tourism or successful coffee shops in proximity to art galleries […]The better the art, public or not, the nicer the place and the richer society becomes as a whole. 

Artists aren't the only ones who are taking a beating. Journalists and media have also been a target -- Greg Weston, a Sun News writer, was quickly fired after he broke story on the the $1.2 billion "fake lake" that Harper ordered last year for the G8 summit. He was rumoured to have been let go for writing news that caused embarrassment to the Prime Minister.   

The late Jack Layton predicted in 2008 that Stephen Harper would try to privatize the CBC if he ever got a Conservative majority. Now that he has that majority, Sun News has been relentless in its attacks on the CBC. As it is, Harper has been described as a "control freak" toward media, allowing just five questions from reporters and screening individuals at Conservative Party events. Even though Sun News is being promoted on the premise of "free speech" and "diversity" in the media, these are two things sorely lacking in Harper's dealings with the press. 

If even a right-wing media reporter is muzzled for questioning the government's expenditures, it's unlikely that a privatized CBC would be able to maintain its duty to keep checks and balances on power. 

Toward a less compassionate Canada

Gillis was taken to task in the interview for having said in a previous documentary that she felt Canada has become a less "compassionate" country in recent years. Erickson chided Gillis, saying that she had no right to be talking about compassion at a time when soldiers were dying in Afghanistan. 

Many viewers -- even self-described Conservatives -- said that Erickson was comparing apples to oranges by dragging in Canadian soldiers to the debate. Soldiers in Afghanistan wrote Gillis, saying that although they "didn't know anything about the arts", the comments by Erickson were intolerable. 

But there was truth in Gillis' comments, even taken out of context. In terms of caring for the most vulnerable people, Canada is indeed becoming a less compassionate country since Harper came to power.

Harper has cut funding to 11 major womens’ groups, immigrants’ groups and to disability jobs training programs. And with the average artist earning just $23,000 annually, the $45 million in arts funding cuts plunged many struggling artists deeper into poverty. 

Native activists Kirsten Gilchrist and Bridget Tolley from Families of Sisters in Spirit, an organization advocating for missing and murdered aboriginal women, accused the Harper government of ignoring the plight of society's most vulnerable individuals.

"Stephen Harper cut funding for Families of Sisters in Spirit," Tolley told Rabble.ca in June. "He promised $10 million for missing Aboriginal funding but half of it went to the RCMP."

"The money went to things like expanding wiretapping," said Gilchrist. "It seems he used missing and murdered aboriginal women to expand his law-and-order agenda."

Sun News Network, meanwhile, outright ignores such issues or tackles them from the angle that such groups deserve to have their funding cut. It focuses its energy on anti-union articles, on fanning anger over CBC funding, and promoting a "Tea Party North" in Canada. 

Since its inception, Sun News has unsuccessfully tried to gain access to millions of Canadian households by having the network embedded as part of the basic cable package. Last month, the network surprised many by announcing that it would give up its current over-the-air license that gave it access to viewers who weren't already subscribers to the news service. But the network may just be keeping quiet before major changes in the future.

The Prime Minister tried on numerous occasions to push out the current Canadian broadcaster chief, Konrad von Finckenstein, who denied CRTC its special license last summer, according to a Globe and Mail report. When his term expires in 2012, people may be surprised to find the right-wing program resurface as part of peoples' cable packages. 

As laughable as the idea may seem today, the presence of a 24-hour right-wing news network may shift the political centre of Canadians toward the right. The Krista-Gillis interview, which outraged so many Canadians in June, may soon become as banal as a Glenn Beck interview in Alabama if Sun News is allowed to have its way.

In the meantime, Gillis hopes that the network, which she described as a propagator of "hatred and anger", be removed from the airwaves.

"I think the station should be taken off until they can prove that they represent Canadian values," she said.

 

(6) Comments

Barnacle September 7th 2011 | 1:13 PM

This report is why I read VO, to catch events arriving over my horizon.

Giving Margie Gillis' side to this ambush offers the best perspective to this substandard mongering.

Has nothing been learned from News of the World ? Or have  they found a new employer ?

Krista's behavior can be screened through the Psychopath Test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist

The reasons that Gillis gives to excuse Krista overlooks responsible journalism and behavior. When someone repeats slander, she becomes liable for it. Has ambition made Krista ignore her employer's disrespect for her ? Has she become expendable as well as contemptible ? 

Has the bully taken over ?

Finally, reading to the end,  I found this sentence puzzling : The Krista-Gillis interview, which outraged so many Canadians in June, may soon become as banal as a Glenn Beck interview in Alabama if Sun News is allowed to have its way.

Banal subsitutes for 'bland', remarking on quality and interest. If 'common or everyday' is meant, then I too fear that jingoist outrages will become more frequent.

juechi September 7th 2011 | 10:22 PM

Thanks for the comment. We mean "banal" as in common. For example, no one is surprised or shocked these days by Glenn Beck and his commentary. It may be shocking to listen to Erickson/Sun News now, but if it becomes mainstream, this kind of rhetoric, we think, may become more commonplace. 

Dan September 10th 2011 | 4:16 PM

"I think the station should be taken off until they can prove that they represent Canadian values," she said.

 

It strikes me that silencing people that you disagree with is very much against "Canadian values".  I'd rather hear everyone's viewpoint and make my own decision thanks....

NVBlogger September 12th 2011 | 3:15 PM

Let's look at this objectively - Layton said Harper with a majority would privatize the CBC. There are no such proposals nor any likelihood of such except for the paranoid.

Harper's success has primarily been his ability to restrain the foil hat crowd in his own party. The other side should do equally well to restrain their loonies.

To say that Harper has been 'going after' the arts community because his government has not enriched them is missing the point - money is tight all round and in a tough fiscal situation tough choices need to be made and inevitably governments will be second guessed. Third and fourth guessed for that matter.

I don't like a lot of the things that are currently being done but I don't expect to agree with them 100%.

rALPH wASSON September 12th 2011 | 10:22 PM

No Margie you dont try to silence your opponents.Who are you to decide for me what I should see??Are you more educated than I or more widely read or smarter??Then prove it.youve done well for yourself and noone is trying to take that away from you.

Do you know some people in this country dont have enough to eat.count your blessings and persuADE PEOPLE WITH BETTER IDEAS NOT COPYING fASCIST TECHNIQUES FROM FAILED

STATES.nOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DONT EARN THEIR MONEY HONESTLY IN cANADA FROM BUSINESS TO GOVERNMENT TO WHOMEVER.dONT BE PRISSY AND DONT PRESUME TO KNOW BETTER THAN EVERYONE.IF YOU ARE RE4CEIVING PUBLIC MONEY YOU SHOULD HAVE TO JUSTIFY IT .bUT THERE ARE MANY MORE WHO NEED TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE THAN YOU.

   iF YOU CALL FOR A BAN YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE MORE SUPPORT THAN YOU WILL GAIN.wE DONT ALL AGREE ALL OF THE TIME AND THAT IS ALSO A cANADIAN VALUE.READ HISTORY AND TELL ME IM WRONG.

Bartok September 13th 2011 | 2:14 PM

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For one thing he is a member of the Globalist "Bilderberg Club", Tea Partiers are anti Elite Globalist and Oligarchs!

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Take a look at this website, as Harper bows down to Obama and Canadian Forces take orders from American "Norad Command" Post

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